Obama’s Non-State of the Union Statement to the Union

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Obama’s Non-State of the Union Statement to the Union

Can one of you government wonks explain to me why this wasn't a State of the Union? Well, whatever it was, I felt good about it, partly because earlier that day Diana Cage called to tell me that the Obama stimulus would pay for 65% of my Cobra payments starting March 1. I promptly called my health care provider to confirm it, just in the nick of time, too; I was about to cut my health care this month because I can't afford to continue the payments in full. I've lived insurance-less for years and it sucks.

And how confused is the GOP? They are playing the race card without the civil rights issues. I mean both Bobby Jindal and Michael Steele might as well be a couple of racist, sexist, homophobic old white guys — with or without the hip-hop marketing.

I'm sorry, but Jindal wasn't making any sense! First, he likens himself to Obama in his "foreignness," then goes on to trumpet the Republican values of cutting taxes and small government. His home state of Louisiana has received $178 billion in federal aid to rebuild after Katrina. Hello?! Jindal, where do you think those billions came from?



Comments [70]

Steph H's picture

TOPPING TAE Ha ha! I like

TOPPING TAE

Ha ha! I like having my "chain yanked"!

I am not sure what the origin of the term Yank is - I shall probably go away and look that up! Do you know that the cockney rhyming slang for a Yank is "Septic Tank"!! Wink

LongBeachDogLover's picture

I know a few politicians I'd

I know a few politicians I'd be happy to give a prostate exam to.... I'm not sure how doctors do that sorta thing, but I've got some gardening gloves, and some WD40...... that may work.

Bend over Governor Schwarzenasshole and grab your ankles, it's THAT time of year !!

Not2Taem's picture

EB, enlarging tiny minds one

EB, enlarging tiny minds one blog at a time.

Not2Taem's picture

That would be the liability

That would be the liability in hanging with folks who enjoy yanking your chain.

Do you suppose that could the true origin of the term Yanks? Wink

Not2Taem's picture

lol as mad as a box of

lol
as mad as a box of frogs
or a Vulcan in heat
Laughing out loud

Steph H's picture

Yeah, I kinda realised that I

Yeah, I kinda realised that I was onto a bum logic route with this one.....

Erin Blackwell's picture

i'm not sure what you mean,

i'm not sure what you mean, which is an effective gambit

Erin Blackwell's picture

aren't all words made up?

aren't all words made up?

Steph H's picture

Now that, is a very good

Now that, is a very good point......

Steph H's picture

Hey Tae! It goes well

Hey Tae!
It goes well thanks!
No, I am not actually a big spin off fan either, apart from Voyager (resistance is futile......).
As for Shatner, he was over here on a talk show recently - he really is as mad as a box of frogs.
Go well Smile

LongBeachDogLover's picture

"LongBeach, I’m glad to hear

"LongBeach, I’m glad to hear you support universal health care, however the idea that we should not have to pay any more in taxes for it is not only unrealistic but bordering on absurd."

"It’s a nice fantasy to think everyone should have healthcare at no extra cost, but it’s a bit like Bush saying we can fight two wars and have tax cuts–the numbers just don’t add up."

"While I’m perfectly happy to agree to disagree on the economy, the facts of the current global depression argue powerfully against your views. An unfettered free market economy has brought us to the brink of collapse."

Bordering on absurd?? You don't even know what my views are on taxes, do you. Do you think that because I believe in our system, and the free marker economy, that I believe no one should pay taxes to support that system.... You wouldn't have a clue what I feel. You're always so busy telling me how wrong I am about everything I ever say, that you're not really listening to me...

You see Mystic, I believe in the economic system that made this country great. And, as a more progressive and contemporary stance, I also believe in a FLAT TAX system. With no one, particularly corporations, skirting on their obligation to support the system that we all benefit from. And, health care for every American........it is not unrealistic or absurd. I certainly don't mean that delivering a system of guaranteed health care to Americans is 'free', I am saying that Americans already pay enough in taxes, and that our priority, as a nation, MUST be to take care of our nations health.

Please correct me if I'm wrong Mystic. However, I don't believe that I have ever stated that your, angry and narrow minded opinions, "border on absurd". I certainly have never said that your statements are merely a "fantasy"..... Do you want me to tear apart your statements? I don't think that you want me to do that. Trust me, you really don't.

Do you own a business? Are you a venture capitalist? Do you belong to any investment consortiums? Are you a philanthropist? Do you give away 75% of your income yearly? Let me tell you this.... I do. I am. I do. I am and I do. I'm sure that I pay more in taxes, in one year, than you make in 10 years. Seeing that NONE of my wealth was handed to me, I know about the market economy and how it can work. My knowledge is 'living' knowledge, from experience....I've watched it work, I've watched it fail.

So, being an "absurd"..."fantasy" filled...investor and tax payer, let me say this to you............. THE SYSTEM WORKS !! When the government allows REAL growth, and it's obvious you know nothing about what REALLY makes the system work, then everyone benefits..... even you. I am not a cynic. I have faith in people and the basic structure of our government. And, contrary to what you may believe...... fixing the system isn't about the redistribution of wealth. It's about reining in government spending, streamlining government, and encouraging the pro-active-independent-entrepreneurial spirit that grew this economy into the magnificent machine that it has been... Greed and ignorance caused this debacle. And now... fear, budgetary ignorance, and the American people's need to have the government rescue them from their own irresponsible economic behavior, are going to lead us into a new generation of, tax & spend.

I'm through discussing issues like this with someone who choses to discount anyone else's possible knowledge.

I really enjoy listening and learning from others,.......But Mystic, in the past you've said that I'm "not compassionate", now my opinions are... "bordering on absurd" and a "fantasy"? I would suggest that you ask me a question, or two, about the type of woman I am, and what I have done to improve the quality of life for countless other people before you continue to demean me personally.

I have no use for you, or your negative-degrading-condescending bullshit. This isn't the first time Mystic..... possibly a look in the mirror might be in order.

Maybe Velvetpark is the wrong place for me... I can see why so many others are being turned off, and leaving. There is no uglier sight than vindictive, angry, lesbians....and, I refuse to become one. I've been through this with you too many times. Here, and at OC.

Erin Blackwell's picture

break. but you're so good

break.

but you're so good embedding things, pun intended, i thought you might pull a minnie & scan some cursive, since it's on the way out.

Fastgurrrl's picture

Tanks, Grace. ;)

Tanks, Grace. Wink

Xanadu's picture

The Brits seem to love it

The Brits seem to love it here! I guess it probably feels a bit exotic, but without the heat of Australia.

Plus we have four seasons in one day ... (I think Brits secretly love unpredictable weather!)

Not2Taem's picture

And wanker isn't? :?

And wanker isn't?
:?

Not2Taem's picture

Hey BriTwit! How goes

Hey BriTwit! How goes it?
Never could tolerate Shatner. Doesn't it remind you of Sheckner?
I only had eyes for Spock, and the occasional guest star. I can't get into the spin offs.

Live long and prosper and avoid all the Sh---ers out there.
Smile

Not2Taem's picture

If you get up close and

If you get up close and personal with it, my little mind might just grow on you.
Wink

Grace Moon's picture

let me check the spam box! be

let me check the spam box! be right back.

tweet tweet @gracemoon

mysticsmb's picture

LongBeach, I'm glad to hear

LongBeach, I'm glad to hear you support universal health care, however the idea that we should not have to pay any more in taxes for it is not only unrealistic but bordering on absurd. Quality healthcare, even cost-controlled and cost-effective healthcare, costs money. Every country that has government-sponsored care pays more than us in taxes--but overall they pay far less than Americans do under our current system and don't have the fear that they'll be bankrupted by a major illness, or have to fight their insurance company whilst sick for adequate coverage.

There are no free lunches--if we decide healthcare is a priority for our citizenry then we will have to make the necessary sacrifices. It's a nice fantasy to think everyone should have healthcare at no extra cost, but it's a bit like Bush saying we can fight two wars and have tax cuts--the numbers just don't add up.

While I'm perfectly happy to agree to disagree on the economy, the facts of the current global depression argue powerfully against your views. An unfettered free market economy has brought us to the brink of collapse. I agree that small business and venture capitalists are engines in our economy that as you say "provide the future jobs and growth potential for a stable tax base, which in turn… keeps schools open, police officers on the streets, libraries open, streets clean and communities a safe place to raise children." BUT...what do you do when these engines come to a screeching halt?

We still need to keep the schools and libraries open, keep police and fire departments protecting us, etc. The private sector is shedding jobs at the fastest rate since the Great Depression. Should we just concede the next 10 or 20 years (an entire generation) on a wish and a prayer that private industry will somehow be able to right itself? Why should we trust the unrestrained free market mentality that created this mess to clean it up? And why should we implicitly trust the acumen of 'individual investors' when the Madoff and Stanford scandals demonstrate how readily greed can be exploited and easily overwhelm sound judgment?

Government is not the answer to all our problems, nor should it try to be. But we have had an economic 'dirty bomb' dropped on us, and in the ensuing crisis the only entity that has emerged with the immediate power and resources to clean up the wreckage and begin to rebuild, to INVEST in our future, is the United States government.

Fastgurrrl's picture

But this short one doesn't.

But this short one doesn't. Sigh.

Fastgurrrl's picture

I have written you a response

I have written you a response twice, and each time it has disappeared, hmph!

Fastgurrrl's picture

www.rpmcycles.com Hi, Grace.

www.rpmcycles.com

Hi, Grace. Smile Our main demographic is 30-40 & up. We also get a lot of military because of the nearby bases. We enjoy the younger crowd (most of the time, ahem, but we are not into or supportive of the stunting on public roads scene at all) and we strive for an inclusive, fun vibe at our shop. We don't care if you are white, black, rolling or a janitor. We are grateful for the loyalty we are shown. At least 75% of the new faces we meet come to us because of a friend's referral, THANK YOU! We are respectful and honest with our customers, and they get real clear we expect this in return, because it's not worth our time dealing with cheapskates or liars...we won't deal with it because if you come to us, we have your back...but that goes both ways. Once in a while we have to fire a customer. Some of them have come back to us with a better attitude and we will do business with them again. What I'm trying to say is, we treat people good and right, and they know this if they have been to other places, ahem. We don't soak people, and we sure as hell are not gonna take it in the shorts. Why should we? We don't cater to the lowest common denominator. We are fair, and we do not work for free or less than. We foster a team feeling with our people...let's take care of each other. It's been working and people seem to dig/appreciate our way.

MOM & POP BABY

LongBeachDogLover's picture

Erin, I think it's real

Erin, I think it's real pretty !!

Give a girl a break...... Laughing out loud

Grace Moon's picture

I've been wondering what

I've been wondering what exactly is your business?
I've gleaned you sell and repair motorcycles????

is the clientèle, people with disposable income, weekend riders, professional racers..?

tweet tweet @gracemoon

Steph H's picture

It's a difficult one isn't

It's a difficult one isn't it? Nothing is ever "free" - we don't pay for healthcare at the point of use but every month my employer and I pay a good chunk of money in "National Insurance" and taxes which contributes to the funding of the healthcare system. The quality/efficiency of that healthcare system is a whole other story...
There are pluses and minuses on both sides I think.

Anyhow, have I ever told you that NZ is one of my favourite places in the WHOLE world?

Steph H's picture

Ha ha!! My mind made the

Ha ha!! My mind made the leap to "wanker" too.....

(I am sure wonk is a made up word....)

Steph H's picture

Focus on Captain Janeway, NOT

Focus on Captain Janeway, NOT William bloody Shatner.

Oh and "hi" btw!! Smile

Erin Blackwell's picture

the tie acts as a visual lure

the tie acts as a visual lure to take your little mind off the arcanity of it all.

Erin Blackwell's picture

show me the cursive!

show me the cursive!

LongBeachDogLover's picture

Hey Erin......it looks okay

Hey Erin......it looks okay to me.
I think all the rest look kinda boring though, I must be gay....
Laughing out loud

LongBeachDogLover's picture

Mystic, you and I go around

Mystic, you and I go around in circles when it comes to some subjects. You will have your views, and I will have mine. And, I do respect your opinion..... However, when it comes to the free market economy, I know what I'm talking about. I've been an 'investor' for decades.....

Investments are imperative to keep any economy moving. Small entrepreneurs, and venture capitalists, grow the economy. They bring new money into the marketplace.....they provide the future jobs and growth potential for a stable tax base, which in turn... keeps schools open, police officers on the streets, libraries open, streets clean and communities a safe place to raise children. Not the government. The government creates a stagnant, 'favor based' environment that is not conducive to investments. And, I am referring to investments by individuals, and venture capitalists... not the major multi-national corporations who control Wall St., and have been huge players in the economic debacle.

And just so you understand Mystic, it is my contention that medical care, in this country, should be available to every American... at no cost. The taxes that we pay should be sufficient to cover all medical costs, for all Americans. The health coverage system that our legislators enjoy, should be available to everyone. Medical care should never be a privilege for some Americans, or a burden for employers....

Unfortunately, President Obama's solutions to the health care issues are really no solution at all. It does nothing to guarantee anyone, anything. It does nothing to control costs. It does nothing to create an equal medical delivery system to all Americans.....we need permanent, real medical reform. Reform that will help families, and businesses alike. Not subsidies in their current, proposed form. Shifting costs is not a permanent solution...

I don't look at our medical care as a subject that should ever be up for debate...... it has become 'big business', and it should not be. Not in a compassionate society.

minniesota's picture

I have been so busy with work

I have been so busy with work I completely missed Obama's speech last night. I don't pray but I "pray" the economy gets better.

Also, it appears the Republicans want to have a mea culpa and claim to be our saviors of the nation's economy at the same time. They make me want to puke.

Still searching for the right brainy quote.

Robin Rigby's picture

I have Kaiser Permanente with

I have Kaiser Permanente with no deductible (that I know of) and $20 copays for visits, $10 for prescriptions, but who cares because Kaiser is utterly useless. I have never had a diagnosis for anything- not my mysterious lasts a day and is gone all over joint pain, not my fucked up periods with devastating cramps, not my messed up knees (Beginning stage arthritis, for the last 20 years?). Personally, I'd rather my employer spent that money on something more useful.

Sorry to list off my ailments, I'm not complaining (except about KP) but I saw "Sicko" finally on cable recently and that taped conversation with Nixon about Kaiser was chilling to me.

We had a big meeting at work today, our annual state of the union (so to speak) and one of the things our regional VP pointed out is that our CEO has an office the size of a breadbox with 30 year old chairs. This for the CEO of one of the most successful, well-known companies in the nation. It's good to know that not all corporate heads are greedy bastards out to fuck their employees and customers just to make their stockholders rich.

Rusty's picture

Anna Marie is adorable and

Anna Marie is adorable and that repartee left me saying, "GAH!"

"When you look for the bad in mankind expecting to find it, you surely will." ~ Pollyanna

mysticsmb's picture

Thanks for the links. The

Thanks for the links. The class-action suit I mentioned had its beginnings online--I'm sure Chase didn't count on how quickly people can organize these days and the bad publicity that ensues!

Not2Taem's picture

Left in the disturbed

Left in the disturbed recesses of my mind after Rachel's interview with Anna Marie: Jindal's genitals.

Someone please clear the creepy gremlins out of my head. Shock

Fastgurrrl's picture

Yah, Mystic, I've been

Yah, Mystic, I've been wondering if they did that to me, who else have they done it to? You do what you're "supposed" to do and you get fucked in the ass with no lube even. I have used my credit for business at times, but I am not "forced to use [my] credit cards to make ends meet."

This is something I got yesterday, as a fan of Arianna Huffington, on my facebook about the topic:

http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=57355776812&ref=mf

Are you being forced to use your credit cards to make ends meet? Has a credit card company jacked up your interest rate after missing a single payment - or raised your rate even though you haven't missed one? Have you been charged unexpected add-on fees? If so, we want to hear your story. Share it with us by emailing submissions+creditdebt@huffingtonpost.com.

We are also looking for citizen journalists to help cover the economic crisis. Click here to join our team reporting on how the meltdown is impacting your neighbors and your community:
http://org2.democracyinaction.org/o/5397/t/4505/signUp.jsp?key=644

Not2Taem's picture

Ugh! Just had the most

Ugh! Just had the most disturbing vision of Spock and Willy searching for Eden. What blog was that barfing smiley on?

Not2Taem's picture

I thought of Erin. Sorry! If

I thought of Erin. Sorry!
If it helps at all, arcane can be attractive, especially when wearing a tie.

Not2Taem's picture

How much do you want to bet

How much do you want to bet they cover prostate exams and Viagra? :roll:

PS: How freaky is it that Viagra just came up on my spell check?

Xanadu's picture

I'm feeling fortunate that I

I'm feeling fortunate that I live in a country with free public healthcare - even if we have to go on waiting lists, for elective surgery.

I'd live in the US tomorrow if I could, but your medical system and lack of safety nets (when life goes wrong), scares the hell out of me!

Obama needs to fix this.

CA_Medicine_Woman's picture

TFF! To borrow a line from

TFF!

To borrow a line from The West Wing:

Mr. Jindal, your state received $178 billion in taxpayer monies. Can we have it back please!

mysticsmb's picture

Appreciate the info

Appreciate the info Fastgurrrl. I seem to recall part of your business is service as well, right? So that's always a good position to be in to guarantee business--I mean people will delay, perhaps, but eventually if something needs to get fixed they'll scrape the money together to fix it.

I've been listening to the reports of Cali's budget battles with interest (and frustration)--they make Washington actually look functional by comparison. I hope all this will ultimately force the state to rejig their budgeting process (including the ballot propositions that involve funding). I hope the stimulus will help CA, though my hunch is it's NOT ENOUGH. Yup, you heard me, I'm in the Paul Krugman camp (always good to side with a Nobel Prize-winner i think). I'd rather overshoot and get things moving, than do half-measures and have to keep coming back, but I don't think public sentiment (and the Republicans) would let Obama have a price tag over $1 trillion in one fell swoop. Too bad.

Sounds like you're relying more on credit cards than small business loans. I hear you on the APRs--I have impeccable credit and my rates have gone up too. AmEx has slashed my credit line TWICE in a period of two months, despite my having a flawless record with them. I chewed them out the second time because it just annoyed me that they came back again (doesn't exactly instill confidence in their standing) and a decreased credit line ends up affecting my overall debt/credit ratio.

One word of caution on those 'locked in' low rates: there's a class-action suit against Chase because they started tacking on a $10 PER MONTH service fee for low APR (2.9-5.9) life-of-the-loan rates. They also started making people pay 5% rather than the standard 2% of the balance per month. People went ballistic because this violated the terms of the agreement, but Chase doesn't seem to care and hasn't desisted. A lot of the banks will probably be trying some shady moves while they still can--a new law goes into effect in 2010 that gives much greater protection to consumers. The banks can't have that, now can they?? Sad

Not2Taem's picture

ROTFLMFHO! :lol:

ROTFLMFHO! Laughing out loud

mysticsmb's picture

For well over a decade, the

For well over a decade, the market economy has not been allowed to work

Are you kidding? The market economy has been given free rein (and reign) the last ten years and our current plight is the net result! The free marketers shunned the slightest bit of regulation and then came to the government with hat in hand after they completely fucked everything up.

Loans to those least likely to be able to repay them, encouraged by our government

Is this a reference to CRA mortgages, a government-sponsored program instituted in the late 70s to increase minority home ownership? Because that program has NOTHING to do with the current housing crisis though many right wingnuts have tried to blame these loans.

Here's a link that totally debunks this myth:

http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2008/09/cra.html

These loans were created more than 25 years ago, they were heavily regulated, and as a result have a lower default rate than the current (or even previously more healthy) mortgage market. The housing crisis was created by the BANKS and UNREGULATED mortgage brokerages, who recapitalized shaky loans about a gazillion times while our regulatory bodies were shut down so as not to 'interfere' with the 'market economy.'

Exactly when were these mythic glory days of the market economy? Because from Roosevelt's New Deal to Johnson's Great Society, government has always had to step in and address capitalism's shortcomings--and there are many.

In a market economy everyone is guaranteed the opportunity to be personally, and financially successful. Some individuals thrive more than others. But, the opportunity to thrive is there…

Yeah, after all, Grace doesn't really need that health insurance, now does she??

Erin Blackwell's picture

an expert wanker

an expert wanker

Erin Blackwell's picture

wait a minute. when did you

wait a minute. when did you start speaking in italics? i get a crick in my neck leaning my head to the side to read

Fastgurrrl's picture

Mystic, thank you for

Mystic, thank you for asking.

Well, you gotta realize that for us EVERY YEAR it's slow right now. Rain cold = slow. This is normal. The unknown for us is how slow this upcoming year will be when we're normally busy with all this bullshit goin' on right now. What's good for us is we pay as we play, like our customers do, and we have a really good reputation that exceeds Ventura County, and we are grateful for the loyalty and referrals we receive. We know how to adapt and get creative (what we pay ourselves, living within our means, etc.) and have been operating in conservation mode since December. We're getting by, but it is tight. We are fighters...in a good way.

What really fucking pisses me off is I have worked hard to achieve good credit. My rating is near 800 and 2 of my best cards just doubled & almost tripled my rates, and I am in GOOD STANDING with them. One of them even sent me a letter how they raised my limit because I'm such a valued customer after raising my rate, bwaaaaaaahaaaaaahaaaaaa, yeah right muthafuckersuckit! My super-low transfer rates are locked in, but I do have a few thousand on them in fairly recent purchases, and this is what they have jacked-sky-high. Of course you don't pay that part down 'til you get rid of the lower rate amounts, ahem. I called them and said I felt betrayed, that I had enjoyed doing business with them and they had been good to me over the years, I had been good to them, I have done nothing wrong, and now they are punishing and SQUEEZING me.

I will avenge myself.

I've run up and paid completely down several times over the years. I will get them down as quickly as possible, I'm fortunate with my living situation, and I will remember who squeezed me during this time.

mysticsmb's picture

How badly is your business

How badly is your business suffering Fastgurrrl?

LongBeachDogLover's picture

I strongly believe in the

I strongly believe in the market economy. It is the 'bones' of our most basic freedoms, a model for healthy individual growth....It affords a fair return for personal ingenuity, and hard work. This I truly believe.

For well over a decade, the market economy has not been allowed to work...

Loans to those least likely to repay them, encouraged by government intervention, is NOT symptomatic of a market driven economy.... Unfortunately, our government has controlled the market economy with manipulation, and now.... fear.

This didn't happen over night, and our governments 'quick fix' will forever change a system that has, until recently, been a model for other countries to emulate..... we need a long term investment in drive, determination, perseverance, and a strength of purpose.

In a market economy everyone is guaranteed the opportunity to be personally, and financially successful. Some individuals thrive more than others. But, the opportunity to thrive is there...