Three-Way: The Butch Mystique

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Three-Way: The Butch Mystique

Our ménage finally gets its trois on as Amy joins Elizabeth and Julia in objectifying butches as the beefcake boifriend pin-ups that they are.

Julia: So Amy, what is it about the butch mystique that gets your knickers in a twist?

Amy: Here's what I like about butches. Top three – #1 A firm handshake, or even better a firm hug. #2 Short hair, preferably shaven. #3 White tank tops. (Some people call them wife beaters, I refuse.)

Julia: Mmm. How a butch looks in a white tank top is KEY to butch hotness.

Elizabeth: Agreed. (And amen to the refusing to call them wife beaters.)

Amy: Totally. I think it's a required element of a butch identity.

Elizabeth: I like my butches in ties, too. But not with the white tank top. That is too sloppy dyke chic for me.

Julia: Totes. What about intangibles? Attitude, an' all that.

Amy: Well, I like the air of masculinity. It's something that to me isn't very attractive in a straight "dude," but is very hot in a butch. How about you?

Julia: As for physical stuff, my top three would probably be sexy and strong hands/arms/shoulders, neckline stubble and a cocky smile.

Amy: Love #1 and #3. Neckline stubble? Please expand upon that.

Julia: When a butch keeps her hair really, really short, and there's that barest hint of stubble along the neckline, on the back of the neck/base of the scalp. I love running my fingers along that. I think I have a fetish for that. But my biggest butch fetish is hands. OMG. I am an ogler.

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Amy: TRUE.

Elizabeth: Totally about the hands. Butch hands are perhaps the single-most fetishized body part by femmes. I remember reading all these forum posts on this buch/femme website about butch hands and – I mean, it makes sense. But whenever I think about hands, I can’t help but get “Both Hands” by Ani DiFranco in my head, and that is not very butch or femme.

Amy: I forgot a really important thing in my top three. And this is something that will make me automatically attracted to someone above all else: a butch on a motorcycle. I know it sounds cliché, but I don't care.

Elizabeth: My butch had a motorcycle. It was amazing. We would ride over the Brooklyn Bridge to hang out with the dykes in Park Slope and sing Janis Joplin songs while we were stuck in traffic. But Pearl got stolen last fall.

Julia: Oh no! I am pining for Pearl, and I never even met her.

Amy: I am always making a fool of myself at the dyke march trying to get on the back of a motorcycle of someone in the Dykes on Bikes contingent. I turn into a desperate sleaze. I forget I have a partner, forget that this is a stranger. I will ride on the back of any butch's motorcycle. I don't care if you are ugly, have an outdated mullet, smell... anything. I’ll ride on the back.

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Elizabeth: Slut for the ride. I get it. But I draw the line at smell. I could weather ugliness and bad hair… but I cannot tolerate butches with bad hygiene. That is like my A-number-1 priority. And unfortunately lots of butches I’ve come across have poor hygiene.

Amy: My dream is just to ride on the back of a dyke on a bike in the parade. Have you ever?

Julia: No! Not yet, but that is totally on my list of things I want to do.

Amy: What about a soft butch on a scooter?

Julia: ... Pass.

Elizabeth: That’s cute… very boi next door… but I’d want to give her a tip for helping me with my groceries or giving me a lift when my car was towed… and tell her to say hi to her mom for me.

Amy: Haha. Yeah, not so hot. Cute. Maybe.

Julia: Save a Vespa, ride a butch!



Comments [47]

Xanadu's picture

The "wife beater" thing is a

The "wife beater" thing is a personal pet peeve of mine ...

Society is confused enough about domestic violence ... Lesbian feminists (of all people) shouldn't be adding to that.

The fact that we (lesbians) can find a turn on, in any subject/term/topic - is not a good enough reason to use it IMO.

Katie Liederman's picture

a couple/many things: a) i

a couple/many things:
a) i love how people are pretending that "wife-beater" hasn't been touched on before. hi old school ourchart peoples. minnie? julia? rusty?
i use the term and i think it's hot. campy. and plenty of dykes, butch, femme and everything in between like getting beaten around a bit in the bedroom, so who says it has to have non-consensual or menacing connotations?
b) the conundrum with butch hands: big and nice is important. but the big part makes fisting difficult. though the thought of a butch easing a tiny fist into me kind of makes me want to hurl.
c) why do you ladies leave me out time and time again?

LongBeachDogLover's picture

Thank you. The term is very

Thank you. The term is very hot....

yonks's picture

"I don’t care if you are

"I don’t care if you are ugly, have an outdated mullet, smell… anything."

Oh Amy, mon amie, mon amour, i knew you had a secret crush on pepe

-Do not follow me, I'M LOST-

yonks's picture

Edit (this is much better) Oh

Edit (this is much better)
Oh Amy, mon âme, mon amie, mon aimée, mon amour.

-Do not follow me, I'M LOST-

Amy Nicole Miller's picture

bien sur, je t'adore, Pepe.

bien sur, je t'adore, Pepe.

yonks's picture

Amy, you'r A muse amazing ;)

Amy, you'r A muse amazing Wink

-Do not follow me, I'M LOST-

Lezbeth's picture

I definitely have the hands,

I definitely have the hands, keep my fingernails short, clean and inviting...don't look so great in a tank because of abundant cleavage, but look great in my T's and cotton button down collar shirts with the sleeves rolled up. This may be old-fashioned butch, but opening the door for a femme, helping her on with her coat and asking her what she'd like to drink, then bringing it to her. Bringing her flowers, and occasionally holding back, aloof to fan her desire. OOoooh, there are so many things a butch can do to spice it up--arms under her knees and her neck, tasting her like an ear of corn...uh-oh, Lezbeth, no femmes in sight, head for the shower.

Not2Taem's picture

LOL When I started reading

LOL
When I started reading this in the side bar, I thought it was for the fisting blog. I mean, it would be important to keep those nails short and clean. Laughing out loud

Lezbeth's picture

Funny! My hands are a little

Funny! My hands are a little big for fisting and I've not been invited for that, BUT with big hands and a willing butch heart there are many possibilities...

Not2Taem's picture

Not judging, but in my view

Not judging, but in my view the fisting thing is best kept to comedy. I know you can pop a baby out of there, but I don't know anyone who had an orgasm doing it. I sure as hell didn't! Laughing out loud

Now possibilities... That's a whole other thing. Wink

Lake's picture

LMFAO!!!!!! "I don't know

LMFAO!!!!!! "I don't know anyone who had an orgasm doing it." I want to meet her!!! Wink

Lake

Not2Taem's picture

Talk about masochistic! Can

Talk about masochistic! Can you imagine what it would take to get a rise out of her? No gentle CL for that lady. Shock

Lake's picture

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;)

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wink

Lake

deedee's picture

DAMN What about us FEMME

DAMN

What about us FEMME lovers on Velvetpark ,what about giving us a blog or 2 .Everything is about Butches on here you know there are some of us (Lesbians) that are femme lovers!

Come on Grace Pleaseeeeeeeeee a blog (Just one)

minniesota's picture

What? Discussion of Diana

What? Discussion of Diana Cage's cleavage isn't enough for you? Just kidding! :mrgreen:

Still searching for the right brainy quote.

LongBeachDogLover's picture

Now, THAT'S what I'm

Now, THAT'S what I'm talkin' about !!!!! Wink

caramelteddy's picture

fresh haircut with neckline

fresh haircut with neckline stubble..check

black tank tops...check

butch hands...check

overhead presses and lat-pulls to increase shoulder strength...check

okay babe, i've got everything i need for your b-day this weekend. see ya wednesday Wink

Kelli Dunham's picture

Wife pleaser. That's what I

Wife pleaser.

That's what I heard somewhere down south and adopted anyway.

Altho I am not big into the "wife" word, at least it doesn't have the whole domestic violence bit.

Not2Taem's picture

Who'd have thought that

Who'd have thought that neckline stubble could be an asset? A hidden advantage of my new summer do. Laughing out loud

Robin Rigby's picture

Ha! And here when I notice

Ha! And here when I notice mine I figure that's just a hint that I need a haircut. Which I actually desperately do need right about now.

Rockets's picture

Hey... you should check out

Hey... you should check out Sinclair Sexsmith's latest endeavor - Top 100 Hot Butches!

Julia Watson's picture

I am so in heart with this

I am so in heart with this list. I think there is a glaring admission, though. Jake should be up there along with his crashpad.com crew!

LongBeachDogLover's picture

Hey now, 'beaters' are not

Hey now, 'beaters' are not the sole property of butch chicks.
This femme looks pretty fuckin' hot in her snug 'beater'......

I'm just sayin'. Wink

knowledge's picture

I used to call them beaters

I used to call them beaters when I was young and dumb, but I've resigned myself to calling them 'boi shirts' for the last couple of years now. It's not very catchy, doesn't have that certain ring to it, but.... well, anything's better than wife beater.

Nice discussion!

minniesota's picture

I'm too short for a bike, so

I'm too short for a bike, so I'd have to settle for a scooter. Maybe a moped. Or maybe I could pull you in a red wagon. Well, life is not perfect for this soft butch!

Still searching for the right brainy quote.

Not2Taem's picture

A gal at my old apartments

A gal at my old apartments had a really hot red Suzuki with a sunken seat and she can't be over 5 feet, if that.

minniesota's picture

::runs to look up hot red

::runs to look up hot red Suzuki's with sunken seat::

Still searching for the right brainy quote.

Not2Taem's picture

If I'm remembering right, and

If I'm remembering right, and it has been a L-O-N-G time since I've ridden one, Classic Chiefs are pretty low to the ground, but heavy. Damn good lookin' bike. Laughing out loud

Not2Taem's picture

Seat height 30.3 inches (not

Seat height 30.3 inches (not sure if this is her bike - I would have to go back over there and check)

http://www.suzukicycles.com/Product%20Lines/Cycles/Products/GSX650F/2009...

Also found a cruiser with 27.6 inch

http://www.suzukicycles.com/Product%20Lines/Cycles/Products/Boulevard%20...

As long as you can support the weight, you can always lean it when you stop. :razz:

Julia Watson's picture

You can pull me in your Radio

You can pull me in your Radio Flyer anytime, Minns.

minniesota's picture

My Dad still has our old red

My Dad still has our old red wagon in the garage. I was so surprised to see it last summer that I took a photo of it.

Still searching for the right brainy quote.

Lake's picture

I dream about a HD Sportster

I dream about a HD Sportster Iron 883.....Damn it's a HOT bike.....Wink

Lake

Uncle Aimee's picture

bad hygiene on ANYONE is

bad hygiene on ANYONE is unacceptable! and instead of wifebeater, howsabout "boibeater" or "bronx tee" or what we call 'em in the bronx here, a "guinea tee"? is it racist to call it that if indeed you are a guinea? discuss!

Micki's picture

i grew up calling them

i grew up calling them "marinas"...maybe its a jamaican thing...

Not2Taem's picture

Any term with beater in it

Any term with beater in it turns me off. I just think of them as tanks of bois and cleavage enhancers of femmes. Wink

lucia_2008's picture

Taem...do you think femmes

Taem...do you think femmes have the best cleavage? Do the majority of butches have minimal cleavage?

Just thinking!!

Smile...life is good!!!

Rusty's picture

"Do the majority of butches

"Do the majority of butches have minimal cleavage?"
Speaking only for myself, the phrase butch cleavage skeeves me out.
[Insert emoticonthingie of Rusty winking]

"When you look for the bad in mankind expecting to find it, you surely will." ~ Pollyanna

Erin Blackwell's picture

leave it to cleavage. Butch

leave it to cleavage.

Butch Cleavage, cub reporter

Not2Taem's picture

Honestly lucia, I don't

Honestly lucia,

I don't naturally think in terms of butch and femme. I mostly use the terms for people who identify themselves that way. But I would say that I know some who ID butch with cleavage that I greatly appreciate. Likewise, I know less endowed folks who do the femme thing quite well. Generally I have found that a larger percentage of femmes vs butches really embrace and try to play up their cleavage. But again, folks are pretty much just folks to me. I love em all!

PS: When it comes to fantasy time, I tend to go kind of Andro handful, so I'm no expert on the subject. Wink

Kelly McCartney's picture

I had this debate with

I had this debate with Liederman last year on OC when she used the beater term and I changed it to tank or undershirt or something because I don't think any woman, let alone a feminist, should call them wife beaters.

Glad the girls raised the point here.

Won't you be my neighbor? @theKELword

minniesota's picture

Well, I've just thought of

Well, I've just thought of them lately as "beaters" in the sense of beating the heat. I probably would just call them tanks in public though.

Still searching for the right brainy quote.

LongBeachDogLover's picture

"cleavage enhancers of

"cleavage enhancers of femmes".......... I like that. I really like that. Laughing out loud

Not2Taem's picture

It really should be on, not

It really should be on, not of. Glad to give your face a lift.

Rusty's picture

Somewhere online I saw it

Somewhere online I saw it called a "wife appreciator." Works for me (except the wife part).

"When you look for the bad in mankind expecting to find it, you surely will." ~ Pollyanna

Grace Moon's picture

i'll go with bronx T.

i'll go with bronx T.

tweet tweet @gracemoon

Steph's picture

How about "vest". Mother

How about "vest". Mother tongue and all that....